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The allocations mainly met the catchment capacity,,exceeded or in a couple of instances was less.thats metered water only.then throw in theft to boot.if the algae didn't kill the fish the chemical levels would have..tests on mud and water samples are over the top.

There ya have it the government's attitude to water resources.the SA royal commission is being completely ignored

Good Corporate Citizens on the defence?

Can't say I blame them. Well put together and a good explanation of environmental responsibility.

Bit of quiet reading here
https://www.mdbrc.sa.gov.au/hearings/exhibits

Future management may need to take account of greater extremes, which seem more severe if recent events are any indication.

*300,000 cattle lost in NQ flood following severe drought
*One in 2000-year flood in Townsville
*Adelaide cracks a record 46C+ (although I found 47.7C on their suburban Kent Town station, dunno why BOM ignored it)
*Tassie's wet areas drying out and burning, including button grass, peat and ancient forests
*Fruit bats dying in the thousands from heat in Victoria
*Fruit bats dying in the thousands from heat in Queensland on the back of +4C heat record in Cairns
*Regular Murray/Darling algae blooms
*More algae blooms elsewhere, with Tassie coastal oyster farmers affected since 2012
*Monster Cat 5 cyclones - Whitsunday tourist resorts still in tatters, will they ever be repaired?

Australia has always been a land of extremes but climatologists are warning of greater extremes and it looks like it is happening.

Water 'missing' ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-06/ ... n/10873782

Malcolm Roberts video in support of Cubbie Station.

Have a look at the Google Earth screen shot 56 particularly the bit circled in red. That image is from August 2018. Look at the amount of water in the river AND the diversion channel. Heaps upstream of weir. Note also how much is downstream of the weir. Zilch. Zero. None. Nil. Remember that date. August 2018.

The historical GE imagery goes back to 2004 and shows the same detail of the weir and diversion channel arrangement all the way back for 15 years. Look at the way the diversion channel feeds into the on-site storage cells (capable of storing 465 GL of water).

Zoom in on the bit circled in red.

The weir holds the water flow of the Culgoa River back and the diversion channel takes that held water from the river and sends it into the eastern end of the storage area. The diversion channel is ABOVE the weir. The water flow from the Culgoa is diverted into the storage cells and stays that way until its allowed back into the river OR until the cells are full. THEN it goes over the weir wall if there's still sufficient flow and down the Culgoa R below Cubbie to the Darling R.

Now go to screenshot 54 from Roberts video which supposedly shows the same part of the weir and diversion channels near it. Note that the date on the video which displays the Cubbie map (which Roberts is explaining with his biro as a distracting pointer) is stamped Sept 2018. The inference is that the map is also Sept 2018.

Where is the detail of the diversion channel and role played by the weir in Roberts map and video which is clearly dated Sept 2018?

Not there is it? But GE imagery history clearly shows it being in place for last 15 years.

Roberts map is from 15 years or more ago and doesn't show what's really going on at Cubbie.

Note also that his video images don't accord with the amount of water in the Culgoa ABOVE the weir which GE shows in August 2018. 1 month earlier. No water there my foot. Heaps of it.

Yet look at the video shots of above and below the weir and storage cells. Like the Sahara Desert? All of that water in the Culgoa gone within a month?

So why would Roberts put that sort of rubbish up on a video?

Cubbie probably feels like its under siege about water and it is but this kind of support it could well do without.

Responsible but misunderstood and "innocent" corporate citizen?

Did anybody take notice of the federal Govt statement today about the future of the Fed Govts Murray Darling Basin Authority (MDBA)?

Its to be decentralised. I'm sure that'll fix everything.

One third of the staff of the Canberra based body will be moved to operate out of offices along the rivers. Closer to the action. Closer to the real world.

1200 staff will be asked to move.

If that's 1/3 of the staff then there are 3600 people working for the MDBA.

Unbelieveable!

More staff than irrigators pulling water. And they STILL can't get it right!

If any useless bureaucratic organisation needs to be disbanded, its this one.

yep

The latest ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/ ... r/10988702

Great story here about a review of the water allocation scheme on the Murray/Darling ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-09/ ... t/11290060

Explains a lot but doesn't really say whether things will improve, with changing weather patterns perhaps no one knows.

Court case, story from back in January ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-28/ ... g/10172736

Now plans to move the fish .... https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... l-collapse

Here is the link to the Murray Darling Basin Plan Agreement.


The Agreement is between the 5 affected states ( NSW, Qld, ACT, Vic and SA) AND the Commonwealth.

Commonwealth appoints the Chair of the Committee and each state appoints its own representative.

The Committee's operations are supervised by a Ministerial Council the members of which comprise state water ministers (5 of) with the Commonwealth Water minister being the chair.

The Agreement has 182 pages and is but one part of the C'Wealth Water Act 2007. The Agreement is contained in Schedule 1. I gave up counting the number of Sections after reaching 556 (with more to go).

Remember that this is just Schedule 1 of the Act (the Agreement and definitions).

The Water Act itself has another 256 sections spread over multiple pages along with 5 more schedules.


Not forgetting the Water Act 2007 Regulations (122 sections plus another 5 more schedules of its own).

Each state then has its own water legislation for allocation of water rights (licences, entitlements etc) all of which need to comply with the MD Basin Plan.

All up, the Murray Basin Plan has over 2,000 sections of legislation contained in the various bits and and it was introduced by Mr Rudd in the early stages of his first attempt as PM.

Thank you Mr Rudd and associates.

If there ever was an example of how NOT to interfere with State's rights this has got to be it.

A bureaucrat and lawyers feast.

Matt.
I don't think "Trouble on the Murray" is the right term for news on this thread.

The may be more value in having a news heading of " No trouble on the Murray". THAT'D be newsworthy. Bit like " All quiet on the Western Front".

I'm a little perplexed as to why the ACT is a signatory "state". Hard to see the ACT municipal swimming pools and Lake Burley Griffen being of sufficient significance to warrant inclusion.

Then again, those miles and miles of irrigation watering the flower gardens and bushes at Floriade would chew up a lot of water. Maybe ACT could drop Floriade as its contribution to M/D water conservation.


http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewd ... /sch1.html

More dead fish ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-14/ ... o/11599962