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Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:07 pm
by ronje
Don't know where the right place for this is.

What's the latest in the NT in respect of black jew swim bladders?

Starting to become aware of it down this way.

Like what on earth a 4.8 m amateur tinnie loaded to the eyeballs with 27 black jew @ an average weight each of 18 kgs would be doing at night in boat harbour? Bag limit here is 2.

Swim bladders is the word locally.

What about you guys?

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:42 pm
by simonbradford80
Something about it being an asian delicacy that fetches massive money per kg.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:25 am
by maxpower

Re: Black jew

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 pm
by JAH
Back in the early 2000 I went out with a pro Jew fisherman a couple of times.He was supplying the casino and fisheries who were doing DNA testing and other scientific testing at the time.They both wanted just the trunks so he would head and gut them and keep the swim bladders to sell of on the side.
The first time I went out the Casino wanted 9 and fisheries 7 we launched in the harbour at 5 were at our spot anchored and ready by 6 and back at the ramp with 16 Jewies by 10.The smallest 116 and biggest 121.Also a couple of good goldies as by catch which he let me keep for a fed as I wasn't getting paid just doing it for fun.
He sold the bladders to an Asian restaurant here in town.At the time l had never heard of it but he said it was Asian delicacy.He got pretty good money for them back then about $15-$20 each.I assume the price as only gone up since.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:46 pm
by ronje
Was wondering if the bladder trade had become the latest black market operation up your way?

Seems that we now have a black market operating on black jew here.

Similar to the rhino tusk. Kill them just for the bladders.

Don't know??

Re: Black jew

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:39 am
by fish4me123
times are tough so you can bet it is going on. I have no idea but I think you would have to know
how to prep them and have an Asian contact and customs might be an issue and of course you have to catch them

Re: Black jew

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:46 pm
by Eman
A client of mine who is a commercial fisher says the price per kilo for the swim bladders is $650.00, my eyes popped out. U can kiss bye bye to the Jew fish population.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:23 am
by BigT
Captain Viv (rip) on the Swordfish used to cook them up for us. Taste just like prawn crackers

Re: Black jew

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:46 pm
by Sullo
A pro up darwin lost $250,000 worth of bladders after some one cut a hole in the side of his freezer room

Re: Black jew

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:45 am
by ronje
Shouldn't be any problems if a professional fisherman collects and sells bladders as a by-product of his fishing operations. Either up there or down here.

The problems will arise when collecting bladders becomes the PRIME reason for catching black jew if no quotas are in place.

Hard to work out how the pro fishing system/s operate without seeing what activities a licence/authority allows the holder to actually do.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:41 pm
by jeffish
Just read in today's NT News as of the 4/7/18 new possession limits rec fishos to 2 swim bladders per person at your permanent residence .
Bladders must be left inside the fish till you get home .

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:33 pm
by Sullo
jeffish wrote:Just read in today's NT News as of the 4/7/18 new possession limits rec fishos to 2 swim bladders per person at your permanent residence .
Bladders must be left inside the fish till you get home .


Pro's need to tag bladders in NT, but i wonder where all the bladders go from the fishing charters when they clean clients fish

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:48 pm
by ronje
The charter operators are no different to recreational fishers in respect of bag limits. 2 in possession (including in the freezer).

There's nowhere that the client's black jew bladders can go legally once the charter operator has 2.

So obviously Fisheries NT believes that there's a black market in black jew swim bladders operating in the recreational fishing sector in the NT.

I say that because the home fridge/freezer was previously exempt from the possession limits on anything at all.

Now the home fridge freezer contents are accountable in the case of black jew.

That will be extended to include other species over time.

Always somebody that spoils things for the majority.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:42 pm
by stroma
My understanding is that new home possession of two bladders per person in household applies to all fish species not just Jew.
Clients of charter operators can take bladders of fish caught provided they remain attached to fish frame. It is offence to remove and retain bladders of fish while in the field. Bladders may only be separated from frame once the fish is home or if still in the field I.e camping if the bladders are being prepared for immediate consumption.

Re: Black jew

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:54 pm
by Eman
You can have all rules regs u want if u don’t have the water police, checking the boats the fish numbers will decline. At $650 per kg there is definitely a black market in swim bladders.