Trouble on the Murray

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Re: Trouble on the Murray

Post by NinjaFish » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:49 pm

And.... Go...

They're off the start and racing..... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-31/ ... s/10767156

Ron, you are correct and I can't wait to see who crosses the line first in the race of 'no blame' and 'it's not my role' and 'I was never informed, trained... or told, that I have to research the inevitable consequence of short sightedness' because my short term portfolio role is basically directed by others' as they all race to the finish and cross the line to the nearest shelter so as not to be noticed - The busted wooden spoon award.

A marvellous race of monumental and clustered disorder is coming soon to the NT and I'm sure we'll be sold to the idea by the doctors of appropriate spin and deceit and I really don't think the NT will ever be supported efficiently enough - prior to, to survive the end result when decisions are being made quietly and as slowly as they are - progress already happening if we are all paying attention.

The truth is coming and the winner is........



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Post by fridgie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:42 pm

The allocations mainly met the catchment capacity,,exceeded or in a couple of instances was less.thats metered water only.then throw in theft to boot.if the algae didn't kill the fish the chemical levels would have..tests on mud and water samples are over the top.

There ya have it the government's attitude to water resources.the SA royal commission is being completely ignored

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Post by NinjaFish » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:11 am

Good Corporate Citizens on the defence?

Can't say I blame them. Well put together and a good explanation of environmental responsibility.

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Post by Matt Flynn » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:00 pm

Future management may need to take account of greater extremes, which seem more severe if recent events are any indication.

*300,000 cattle lost in NQ flood following severe drought
*One in 2000-year flood in Townsville
*Adelaide cracks a record 46C+ (although I found 47.7C on their suburban Kent Town station, dunno why BOM ignored it)
*Tassie's wet areas drying out and burning, including button grass, peat and ancient forests
*Fruit bats dying in the thousands from heat in Victoria
*Fruit bats dying in the thousands from heat in Queensland on the back of +4C heat record in Cairns
*Regular Murray/Darling algae blooms
*More algae blooms elsewhere, with Tassie coastal oyster farmers affected since 2012
*Monster Cat 5 cyclones - Whitsunday tourist resorts still in tatters, will they ever be repaired?

Australia has always been a land of extremes but climatologists are warning of greater extremes and it looks like it is happening.
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Re: Trouble on the Murray

Post by ronje » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:36 am

Malcolm Roberts video in support of Cubbie Station.

Have a look at the Google Earth screen shot 56 particularly the bit circled in red. That image is from August 2018. Look at the amount of water in the river AND the diversion channel. Heaps upstream of weir. Note also how much is downstream of the weir. Zilch. Zero. None. Nil. Remember that date. August 2018.

The historical GE imagery goes back to 2004 and shows the same detail of the weir and diversion channel arrangement all the way back for 15 years. Look at the way the diversion channel feeds into the on-site storage cells (capable of storing 465 GL of water).

Zoom in on the bit circled in red.

The weir holds the water flow of the Culgoa River back and the diversion channel takes that held water from the river and sends it into the eastern end of the storage area. The diversion channel is ABOVE the weir. The water flow from the Culgoa is diverted into the storage cells and stays that way until its allowed back into the river OR until the cells are full. THEN it goes over the weir wall if there's still sufficient flow and down the Culgoa R below Cubbie to the Darling R.

Now go to screenshot 54 from Roberts video which supposedly shows the same part of the weir and diversion channels near it. Note that the date on the video which displays the Cubbie map (which Roberts is explaining with his biro as a distracting pointer) is stamped Sept 2018. The inference is that the map is also Sept 2018.

Where is the detail of the diversion channel and role played by the weir in Roberts map and video which is clearly dated Sept 2018?

Not there is it? But GE imagery history clearly shows it being in place for last 15 years.

Roberts map is from 15 years or more ago and doesn't show what's really going on at Cubbie.

Note also that his video images don't accord with the amount of water in the Culgoa ABOVE the weir which GE shows in August 2018. 1 month earlier. No water there my foot. Heaps of it.

Yet look at the video shots of above and below the weir and storage cells. Like the Sahara Desert? All of that water in the Culgoa gone within a month?

So why would Roberts put that sort of rubbish up on a video?

Cubbie probably feels like its under siege about water and it is but this kind of support it could well do without.

Responsible but misunderstood and "innocent" corporate citizen?
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Re: Trouble on the Murray

Post by ronje » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Did anybody take notice of the federal Govt statement today about the future of the Fed Govts Murray Darling Basin Authority (MDBA)?

Its to be decentralised. I'm sure that'll fix everything.

One third of the staff of the Canberra based body will be moved to operate out of offices along the rivers. Closer to the action. Closer to the real world.

1200 staff will be asked to move.

If that's 1/3 of the staff then there are 3600 people working for the MDBA.

Unbelieveable!

More staff than irrigators pulling water. And they STILL can't get it right!

If any useless bureaucratic organisation needs to be disbanded, its this one.
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