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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

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I was also curious if there’s anywhere I shouldn’t go due to crocs? I’m keen to head up the Adelaide river but my missus thinks I’m crazy.

The Adelaide river in flood is probably not the spot for your maiden voyage in an untested craft mate but up to you.. with the crocs in general as dannett mentioned there's LARGE crocs in all our river systems. Shady and the Adelaide are excellent areas for good croc pics on low tide in the dry season mornings . Just be sensible about the distance you keep from them when fishing or passing them on the way. If a big one shows territorial aggression or interest in your rig simply move spots. Night fishing will test your nerve in a few areas but mostly you'll be fine.

Couple of key points too :
Pack light can't emphasize this enough !!!
Keep your deck organised and clear thus giving the illusion of plenty of room.
Get familiar with the proceedure and tools needed to change a propeller or set of plugs, clear a telltale or intake grilles before needing to do it.
Run your motor in its unlocked position so if you strike a log it can ''kick up'' over the obstacle
Know the rules of the water.
Ensure that you are carrying all the correct safety gear to avoid a fine as well as possibly save your life.
Carry spare fuel,prop etc.plus all the tools too.
Show courtesy to other fishos.
Enjoy the whole experience of getting out on the water. Sure you might make a few ( hopefully only minor ) mistakes along the way while learning a new area and chew up the odd propeller. But that's all part of the fun of being the captain.

Good luck with your adventures and enjoy your new toy.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Excellent points, and agree, a flooded river is not an ideal place for a maiden voyage. There are some big powerful whirl pools in the Adelaide that will buffer a 5m plate boat going at speed.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

You guys are legends for all the advice.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

bucky007 wrote:
You guys are legends for all the advice.

Thx. Not a legend myself, yet, just trying to make it easier and therefore more fun.

On the some of the points of ramp etiquette. Please just get it together people.We've all heard of ramp rage its out there along with plenty of knobs causing it too. Pack most of the gear prior to pulling up at the ramp. When arriving pull up off in a loading area or back in the carpark to sort out the tiedowns / lights, rods, esky or last minute lures. Back down the ramp. If need be do some practice one day when theres not a heap of cars waiting with the tide running out. Then once thats done you can launch.

This is the method that I use most of the time. Best done with 2 people (one in the boat ) reverse down right 'till the wheels of the trailer are almost in the water. unhook the winch and safety chain then reverse in the last few metres with a tiny little bit of pace, you don't want to swamp it though. As it's starting to float, Suddenly. hit the brakes sending it on its way. Job done you can then start 'er up swing into the ramp and collect decky and then you're off. Option 2. solo or tricky spots. Parkbrake then put it in gear too, L4 sometimes even in the steeper bush spots. Push it in off the trailer then get your deckie to hold it or secure it out of the way on your tether rope for the next bloke waiting to use the ramp. Pull clear park the vehicle and you're off ..too easy

Head off to a local ramp one day soon when its busy before you go out. Take a bit of a feed and a comfy chair on a sunday morning for the entertainment factor it'll also let you learn a few different approaches that people take towards the relatively simple task of launching or retrieving.
With a bit of practice you'll soon get a routine going and will be able to do it blindfolded... well maybe not quite. :cool:

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Agree with sitting at a ramp to see the entertainment. Seen so many good and bad methods. Pulled a car out of buff creek at midnight, because the rock slipped out as the handbrake didn't work. Seen guys make it look easy. I do a 5.5m and keep my shoes dry by myself almost weekly. Seen guys wet to the armpits when there are 4 of them. 1 last point. Maintain your trailer and rollers. Makes launch and recovery so much easier.

Remember when i gets rough you can always fish near the boat ramp. Plenty of fish are caught from shore near boat ramps.

Did my time in a 11 ft with a 15hp and covered alot of country. Some scary days but always picked a speed or direction to get home safe. Spent 3 hrs trying to pull start the motor when it got swamped and shorted out in torres strait. Took 3 hrs to dry and start. Took weeks to find the fault.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Would Shady Camp be off limits for a 3.7m tinny?


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Not a good idea bucky . The crocs are plenty big out that way and there is more in that system than anywhere else , I wouldn't .

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Back in the day you would rarely see anything but 12 footers - come to think of it, back in the day you would hardly see any boats at all .....


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

I run a 4.35 Hornet and have done for the past 10 years up here. Ive hit the coastal creeks in Chambers in both directions, travelled to the mouth of the East and back with all the spares etc.
I only nearly died one night when the weather came up and I was banging fish at the mouth of Marsh around 8pm.Probably the longest and most harrowing run Ive had in the tinny trying to get back over and into the mouth of Tommycut.
It shook me up pretty bad as it was pitch black, I was solo and taking on water in buckets. At one stage I had to run the water out as I pushed back into the mouth of Tommy (spring tide) nearly upending the boat as I couldn't see the bank. Made it around the bend, dried myself out and fell asleep.....it was like a 3 hr run back. I bailed the next day back to Sampan and hiked it.
Ive seen some pretty gnarly weather crossing the harbour, surfing home from Shoal Bay and running back from Tapa.
My advice is stick to the harbour for now, learn the limitations of your skills and your boat. Don't fish the big rivers or billabongs at night and in general........tell someone where youre going all the time.
Do what you're doing now, ask questions, observe the weather patterns.
As for locations.......Matt Flynn is on the money. The Eastern side of the harbour, (creeks mentioned) is a goldmine and Ive banged fish up to 85cm on that flat at Sadgroves.
Hope you penetrate a few fish.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

bucky007 wrote:
Would Shady Camp be off limits for a 3.7m tinny?


Electric motored over a 4.5 croc at the second barrages at Shady with the misses in a 3.75 edge tracker with a 15 yammy on the back.
Had a 4.55 sea jay 50hp 4Stroke with high gunnels within 2 weeks misses never blinked a eye as I pulled the 12k out of the bank :D

Did do a lot in the 3.75 before hand like Shady mouth, all the way to the Prawn farm on the Roper countless Shoal bay trips.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

The other thing with Shady and small boats is that there are a lot of big boats there. Big boats in big run off currents and big tides equal big wakes. Wakes are much less forgiving than waves even front on. And there is going to be a lot of big boats there.

I wouldn't say it's off limits, in fact if you went the fresh side would be the go and open a lot of options that will probably produce a heap of fish (just don't go over the barrages). But there will still be big crocs. With inexperience downstream is a gamble.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Shady mouth : I reckon you'll be fine mate.
Adelaide is not so treacherous nowadays either as another option. Crocs in both will be a fair bit bigger than your boat just be careful particularly landing fish. Saw a couple of similar craft up at Beatrice and marrakai the other day. . We used to go all the way to marsh ck in a 3.75 with a 30 back when the cutting was still a goer. . While learning just stay inside the river for now. Pick your days and take spare fuel you'll chew a bit against the current. With the bigger wakes just slow down a bit keep it on the plane and hit them as square on as you can. Go for a lap to test your skills in the surf near town before attempting to troll offshore out there or crossing to tommycut. Get an EPIRB i reckon as insurance too.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Lots of great advice here, applicable to larger boats too


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: First tinny, advice please.

Cheers guys, very helpful


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