Dust off the teasers

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Dust off the teasers

Post by Swoffa » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:35 pm

Just too bad that we couldn't convert the chances that we had today. :bonk:

Firstly, I must digress. My 14yr old son and I overnighted in the mouth of the Finniss in preparation for an early start on the water. The Finniss is pumping heaps of tannin coloured water with the salinity levels being really low even a couple of k's off shore from the mouth. Most of the blokes that I spoke to said that there wasn't much happening up near the floodplains so we decided to camp up near the mouth. We pulled 7 barra on poppers with the biggest just short of 65.....not a bad start to the trip with the young feller kicking my arse 5 to 2.

This morning saw us powering out to Sail City with a near glass off. Teasers out......skipping mullet out........waiting in anticipation

We didn't have to wait long before the first beak appeared out of the water behind the baits....line starts taking off in freespool......count to 10.......my son clicks over the bail arm and feels the weight .........only to have bait come loose.

Teasers and baits set again.... pretty soon another beak appears out of the water and jumps all over the bait.....freespool....count to 10.... son clicks over bail arm and feels weight again only to have the bait come loose again.

Starting to see a trend here but not knowing what to do about it. Finally a hookup on a sail about 8Kg only to see it throw the hooks on the first jump. Finally a second hookup but this time on a bigger fish of around 14Kg and this one stayed on for about 7 minutes before it did a blistering aerial run directly towards the boat and spat the bait back at us....not much we could do about that one.

4-2-0 was not the type of start that I was looking forward to.... Perseverence kicked in and we towed the teasers up until lunch time. In a short burst of activity we lost another two sailfish on the hookup......just couldn't set the hooks. I realise after having a great view of the last fish why we couldn's pin these beasts. Because they were so small, they would actually get dragged and change direction when the bail arm is clicked over. Mouth ends up facing directly towards the angler and the circle hook comes straight out of the mouth rather than hinging in the corner. I think next time I will set the circle a bit further forward of the bait and get rid of the tubing between hook and bait.

In all we ended the day just after a lunchtime storm kicked us off the water with a score of 6-2-0. These were definite billfish and not false calls. We would have raised another 6 but could not confirm them as billfish and also seen another half dozen free jumping, cruising, sunning etc etc We also got slammed by numerous macks, tuna and schools of trevs. In total, I stitched up 22 baits for the day for no return.

Water quality was good, nice dark green water although there seemed to be a heavy coral spawn (I thought this only occurred in September). Bucket loads of bait schools but most of these seemed to be staying deep. More mackeral and tuna (only mac tuna) than you could possibly want. Didn't see a flying fish for the whole day..

Not the best start to my season but next time I will be better prepared to target the run of smaller fish that we are currently seeing.

Cheers :drinking1:

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Re: Dust off the teasers

Post by hingsy » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:47 pm

Unlucky but Top report!

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Post by Nogood » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:09 pm

Mate instead of a count of 10 count to 30 and let the wait of line set the hook not the rod it's been working for us
We have been useing 4/0 musted demon inline circle hooks

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Post by jeffish » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:12 pm

Top report Warren ,hard luck with the hook ups.
Thanks for saying Gday at the servo,nice to put a face with the name,,cheers

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Post by Agent86 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:23 pm

Well done on seeing the fish and thanks for the report.

Pity about the hookup rate

Sounds like there will be a few round this season though, good to hear
If there is water and it holds fish, then it is fun trying to fool them into eating what you offer!!

Especially when you can see them!

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Post by DOUG » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:29 pm

Good effort least ya raised a few
J hooks an only a short count on the smaller fellas
Where ya raise them out wider or around Bowra ?

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Post by uniball » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:51 am

Good job dude. Brilliant conditions down there this weekend

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Post by john d » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:59 am

Cheers for the report Swoffa.
Hopeing to get down there after easter.

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Post by Quinntreximon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:39 am

Never fished for sails before but might give them a go this year. What is a good lure to start with or is it best to troll mullet or skirts, etc? Just a few simple tips to get me started would be great.

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Post by Swoffa » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:57 pm

Hi Suzie Q,
DeepBlack put up a great blog a couple of years ago on all aspects of billfishing up this way. The blog is in 4 parts and should be read from number 1 first. Check out the blog at http://fishingterritory.com/blogs/tragic/ You dont need to spend big dollars getting set up and you definitely dont need to go out and buy expensive teasers, lures or skirts.

NoGood, tried a couple of variations on setting the hooks but still couldn't come up on a winner. We tried waiting for up to about 20 seconds then tried 5 seconds...... We are using Penn spinfishers and have them with the bail arm open and a rubber band holding the line until the fish strikes and releases it from the spool. after the count of 10 we turn the bail arm over and let the weight of the line hook the fish. I don't think we were doing anything fundamentally wrong although a couple of mods to the rig to cater for the smaller fish would have definitely helped. It just didn't work for us this time but thats billfishing.

Doug, all the fish were directly at Sail City. there was nothing at the Witches Nose or Long Lost. There weren't even any birds working those other areas. I will give it a shot next time with using a J hook and lessen the count. One rig set that way and the other rig set in my conventional style...

cheers :cheers:

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Post by Quinntreximon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:32 pm

Thanks for the info SWOFFA. Will give it a try.

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Post by Kp NT » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

How ya going swoffa, what size and type of circle hook do you use?

One thing ive found with sails is you gota let them go until they stop to swallow the bait then when they move off again you up the drag and the hook should come up and hook em in the corner of the jaw,
Then all you gota do wind em in and job done :D
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Post by CCO625 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:55 pm

Swoffa, You mentioned that you had stitched up 20 odd baits for the day, were they Gars or Mullet. I'm currently trying to find a good spot to catch some Gar to pre rig and freeze for later use. Are you catching your own or can you recommend a good supplier as I can't find any in the local tackle shops. Cheers, Steve.

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Post by BarraMick » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:21 pm

Glen at BETA frozen foods normally has them.
and every other bit of bait.

hes the butcher in Berrimah.

does top quality meat as well.

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Post by Swoffa » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:31 pm

Hi Steve, I normally get my baits at Pt Blaze so they are nice and fresh. This trip I took along some frozen mullet just in case I couldn't get anything. Lucky that I did as there was bugger all bait anywhere to be seen. I find that Franks seafood at Nightcliffe has some nice fresh frozen mullet and gar but after seeing what BarraMick has written above I think I will also have a look in BETA. Might check out the meat while I am in there :)

I was using small mullet only around 4 inches long and I still think they were too big for the fish that were out there. I would recommend using mullet around 2 to 3 inches long with a 4/0 circle rigged about an inch in front of the bait. The frozen ones that I used from Franks were really good and fresh and there were probably about half in the packets at the size that I was after.

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