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I tell ya what Slug, you and me are two peas in a pod. Are our opinions so rare these days? I’d hope not! ‘They’ are taking over. I won’t change though! To paraphrase Nick Cave, ‘Keep kicking against the pr..ks!’

slug wrote:Slightly off topic - but not so much :-

Here's the latest example of the insanity we endure these days from 'them' - whoever 'they' are ???

Ol Mate on the radio yesterday from Bycycle Qld (or some such?) demanding a law change whereby ANY accident between car & bycyle
be deemed to be the fault of the motorist - irregardless of 'real' circumstances

Where do these people come from, and on what planet do they live

Totally agree. You should see the bicycle couries in CBD of Sydney - dead set on a deathwish

goldfish wrote:So .... if they are testing at the ramp you could simply drive past and quickly deploy the anchor and you're safe as houses?. LOL.

Yeah, that’s my point. Its like the breathos , people just stop and hide.
I try to see whats behind any proposed changes and I just cant see what their motive is for this one.
Maybe they are just putting out the feelers to see the response.
They say that of all the people with opinions, 10% will actually write an email and only 1% will actually do anything about it.

Me personally dont drink a great deal on the water but if these coppers do have the freedom to test on the water as opposed to on the land as spoken about then it makes it really difficult to ascertain how many cans will tip you over .05, also are they going to wait to test you like they do in your car if you say you have only just finished a drink?,to many murky areas to be successful. As stated the crime rates by the young locals is what needs to be addressed, not the odd coldie out on the water I will be writing to Natasha Fyles to state my concerns.

Hypothetically have a few cans at mouth of tommycut and get breathoed and go over, now what hapeens, ps my deckie has been drinking more than me and cant safely handle a boat so leaving him alone is not an option.
Do the police tow us back to boatramp!
Oh I forgot to mention I demand a blood test!

unless it is testing at ramp only it will be so unenforceable its ridiculous.

Cheers Craig

like I said before, its totally unenforceable unless the cops get heaps more resources
I can see the issue but cant see it ever working.

just on the test at the mouth, it would be the same as when someone blows over in the street. they dont tow your car or give you a taxi ride home . same would apply here.

remember that when you go over roadside, they take you to the station or unit to do THE test. cant imaging that happening.

people are just getting worked up over a non event. its unenforcable

The strength of the legislation will become apparent in the case of an accident.

A person who's blood alcohol is over .05 and is in control of a vessel that is involved in an accident will have no where to hide.

This is the teeth of the incoming law and one that we should all think about.

I think that is the obvious, although that is done now in the event of a major accident.
People don’t realise that their insurance is also wiped if youre drunk at the helm, same as a car

I would think that that is obvious, drunk at the wheel of a boat, u don't deserve to have insurance coverage

Your insurance contract will state that if you are under the influence of alcohol at the time of your accident,your policy will be null in void

So I guess what I'm saying is the new laws proposed won't change what insurance will or will not pay out on, advice from my lovely lawyer wifey

This might be unpopular but... I see the need for a limit, there has to be a line because frankly the majority of people have poor judgement and eventually do something really dumb. But maybe .08 or even .10 is a more realistic on the water limit. At these levels, you have gone beyond enjoying a few and are getting belligerent and probably should not be the skipper.

Now, maybe the law doesn't need to be enforced. You will probably find that you can carry on as you always have, drink a few tinnies and never feel the wrath of the law. But if the police are on the water and you are carrying on like a twat they might pull the breatho on you. And if it turns out that you are over and being irresponsible (come guys, we have all seen a few questionable acts that should be pulled up) then you should expect to be charged.

Or more to the point... If you have an accident like the one that happened last year at the Finniss, you will be breath tested as he was. He passed the breath and that wasn't the "cause" of the accident. Had he been over a DUI wouldn't have stuck and maybe that would have been less than what the community standards expect. However, next time something happens and they are breath tested and they blow over, you could expect that person to be charged. In my opinion that is pretty reasonable.

Dan

Agree with that dannett and well said.

All I can say from the most regulated state of NSW is

Can’t wait for the traditional beer at first light tomorrow, as soon as the hull is wet. Followed by many more!