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dingaling wrote:I have driven a tray back cruiser 1993 model since 1995

WOW, you must be soooo tired by now.

For you Sheps- suzi porn

How did sh!t heap Suzi's get a mention here?, great to mod maybe but you can't polish a turd. Looks like the people have spoken. Cruisers it is.

i did a bit of bush bashing with my landcruiser around katherine and going from kununara to cape dommet (coast) was great fun and the enamel paint got a few scratches but nothing major. V8 has the grunt to get you through and spin the wheels enough to help keep em clean. with a decent steel bullbar small tree's 6" or so in diameter just fall over no problems.

Cruiser all the way

dirtyruiz wrote:How did sh!t heap Suzi's get a mention here?, great to mod maybe but you can't polish a turd. Looks like the people have spoken. Cruisers it is.

Don't reckon you'd be able to take anything tojo where that little 'turd' would be capable of going. Why not challenge Sheps, and then see if you can follow him, methinks the red faces won't just be sunburn.

yeh but so many downsides to it

Just got back from a test drive in the LC 200 Altitude. noice, real noooiiiccceee

justin wrote:Funny how most of those comp patrols are towed to the comp on a trailer with a crusier

Yep... horses for courses, cruisers tow things around on the bitumen, patrols go well in off road comps.

Let's not forget the question was about bush bashin, in my humble opinion neither are built for it. Both have to be significantly modified to make them vaguely adequate. The only production cars built for bush bashin these days are land rovers and jeep wranglers, both are horrible on the highway.

Got a little Vitara here with a lift kit suspension and mudders,not a lot of places it wont float to
Took an old Siera out on the floodplains at Chiluck with a set of 35's on it and it went places the quads were battling to get to
I use to go to the hillclimbs at lancilin and it always amazed me the big cruiser and V8 4X4's going at the dune but what was even more amazing was to watch the old series 1 Landrover chugging up and down it all day to flatten the ruts out towing an old bed behind it
I really couldn't work out why the big boys even put the money and effort in only to be shamed by the old clean up vehicle

Bit more porn

Hi GLP,

We had a Renegade/Wrangler from new and owned it for about 7 years. IMO they are the most unreliable POS - quality is appalling and the cost of parts was outrageous. There was a good reason why (back then) they only had a one year warranty! They might be ok as a 4wd, but if you can't rely on it, then it 'ain't much good


My wife would buy another one tomorrow!, but that's women for you - as long as it looks trendy...

Interesting Trier, how long ago was that, the ones I know about are the more recent ones, less than 10yo and the people I know that have them have had little trouble. The land rovers on the other hand are an interesting excersize in barely holding together, still... great as a bush basher when they are working.

The point I'm making is the LC and Hilux need a lot of cash thrown at them to make them almost as good off road as the Jeep or Landy off the show room floor, you could just as easily throw that money at a Lada Niva without the absurd initial purchase price.
The discussion is about a bush basher, not a long distance tourer, which the LC excels at.

Ihope they have fixed the major problem with land rovers
A mate of mine who also used to run tours, was climbing a hill with a bunch of passengers on board.
The traction control got a bit overwhelmed and just stopped altogether and caused the vehicle to lose all traction. everythong shut down, brakes, steering the lot
The vehicle just ran backwards down hill and flipped over

Wouldn't have anything to do with landies and jeeps being specifically designed for offroad, both came about from the military need for 'gp' vehicles. The name 'jeep' is slang for general purpose, coined by the US military in WW2, and land-rover means exactly that.

An interesting discussion, I would have thought the people have spoken worldwide on this one, Toyota dominate 4WD sales all over the world despite in almost every class being more expensive...