North of Secure Bay : Landbased Fishing

Lucky_Phill · Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: North of Secure Bay

Hi guys,

I'm new here and thanks for having me. Living in SEQ there is no place that is " out of the way ".

Been looking around and found that the Kimberly area IS " out of the way ".

I am looking at traveling by 4 x 4 to that area to do some Land based fishing and in particular an estuary system north of Secure Bay.

Question is, does anyone know if I can get to that area of coast via 4 x4 ?

cheers LP

Sy · Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Hi Lucky Phil,

Welcome aboard mate.

Met a Lucky Phil down Agnes Waters/1770 way a few years back, not you I suppose? ie" Lucky Phil from Ausfish?

Can't help you with Secure Bay but there are some great posts on here about travelling the Kimberley..just have a gander.

tugger1 · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

None of the coastline north of Derby is accessible by car,
your best option is Napier Brooome Bay or Port Warrender reached via Kalumburu & Mitchell Plateau,
Walcott inlet has limited access to charnley/Calder rivers through Mount Elizabeth station (I think) but go in a convoy to be safe
Secure bay accessible from there by boat but is a long way & if your in Walcott you won't need to go anywhere else anyway
take a boat of some sort whatever you do. cartopper will do if thats all you can manage, 6m c/c better of course!!!!!
need a good 4x4
other option is Dampier Peninsular north of Broome
big adventure what ever you do & absolutely worth it
all well documented

Kimberlite · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

I have visited Secure bay Many times.

There is some road access (very, very questionable) to the South of the Bay but all roads (ex mission roads permission required) have not been traversed for many years such as the Promised land (with sheds and tractors sittting there) near Deception Bay to the North and i would say unless you are driving a Bulldozer forget it.

You can get into the Calder River with a cartopper through peter Laceys property (MT Elizibeth) and the distsnce by sea is approx 60nm each way. Secure Bay is a very big waterway, you can go in up to 20nm from the "Funnel" which is the entrance.

The big tides coming out of Walcott (Yule Entrance ) and into Secure can be devesatating on the springs.

Had my 55ft charter vessel whipped in Yule Entrance by missing the tide change by an hour. A very very dangerous place for a tinny.

The trip can be done by sea from Derby with a well set up and fit for purpose vessel. However there are many better spots with more options than Secure with the same range because it is a finnicky place to fish.

If you want some info on a sea trip PM me.

Cheers Jim

Lucky_Phill · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Yes Sy, same Lucky_Phill from Agnes and Ausfish.

Thanks tugger and Jim.

All good info.

I suppose the next step is to locate a reasonable map that indicates place names, that is, inlets, gorges, bay etc etc.

any ideas ?

Cheers Phill

tugger1 · Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

HEMA maps for Gibb river road & kalumburu
fish finder for some maps of the coastline
best way is go on a kimberley charter, pricing lately seems to start from about $8k for 10 days
I'm doing a boat trip to broome & back in May & a road trip inj august this year,
check kimberlite & my posts as a bit of a tease

Kimberlite · Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Get the 2 charts AUS 732 Hall Point to Sunday Strait Which has some of Secure bay on it (cut off in the corner) and AUS 733 Buccaneer Archipelago if you go by sea.

Also get all of the 1:100,000 topos for that area for the greatest detail for the land side of things.

I have flown over the area at low level in choppers and fixed wing heaps of times exploring (we wanted to land at the old airstrip the French put in to the South of Yule Enterance, too overgrown) and the only road in is to the Calder.

Tugger

Where you going in May?

tugger1 · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Hi Kimberlite,
have several options to pick from, it depends on the owner as his family don't travel well, ideally I want to go to bucaneer area but might end up just as far as admiralty gulf, I'm going to try get fuel dropped at pearl farms, saves buying it. family may fly in via mallard or from broome as part of horizontal fallls tour & out via mallard. I,m trying to spend at least 3 weeks on boat anyway.
Boat is called Bathurst & is 15.5m pacific power cat

Kimberlite · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Nice

by the sound if it you are skippering the boat for the owner?

You must have contacts obviously within Pas to get on board the mallard ( man I would love one of them)

I used to get drums shipped to Kuri bay on the Christine but had to get it done at the start of the year, the other option was the Jenny Wright K but now Pas own it i dont know it that is an option.

Dont forget you can get juice from the pirates at dogleg in Yampi.

Rollo from Kimberly Quest also does drops, I havent seen the KQ in the Duckpond this year tho.

tugger1 · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

Yes, skipper of boat
used to work for pas on all boats
probably get drums from christine or clare, maybe osbornes, vansitart or kuri, well aware of dogleg but its better than not getting any
mallards are available for charter, $2500/hr but they're brilliant,100knots on water, yeehah. float plane from broome $4400 as far as kuri. kuri bay has stopped operating as a farm so mallards not doing regular run & may be leased to fisheries & a sport fishing lodge in the future. some shell still at port george.

Kimberlite · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

$4400 for the sea plane!!!!! From Broome i suppose. The most I ever paid was $2600 from Derby to the Regent. (Cessna Caravan)

try Rod from Bushflight he has the Otter and Beaver based in Derby, the Beaver was reasonably priced (although a few years ago)

Also Alligator Air from Kunna's is an option.

You sailing the rig down from Darwin across the Blownapart?

tugger1 · Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

yeah thats the broome one, caravan by the way or it is $695 per head as part of the tour but no cargo, mallard can take 1200kg
might give rod a call as I know him from pas days( original mallards pilot from whitsundays)
kunnunura to mitchell falls & chopper to mouth of river another possibility
there will be a skeleton crew on the boat, might hit the moyle first on the way down if its fishing ok

Kimberlite · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: Re: North of Secure Bay

A few years ago My brother and I sailed from Derby and picked up a couple of mates from Koolan a week later before heading to the Glenelg. Just did a bit of groundwork (sucking up) with Portmans (now MT Gibson Mining). They hired a 206 from Derby which is pretty cheap and bought in supplies with them (you can get around 450kg all up) and we offered the company the use of the empty return plane and if any small parts needed to come over with the fellas.

We will probably do a trip in early May Moyles/Emu's possibly Fitzmaurice is time permits.

The Horis trips used to be $360 per head from Broome $250 from Derby, its a wonder the Grey nomads are paying $700. Did a charter once to Secure and the boys ran out of booze after 5 days (and they had plenty). They bought 2 seats on the seaplane and filled them with cartons and we did a mercy dash to Talbot!

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